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Tuesday, December 13, 2016

"In Our Time" - Paxton Faz

Pros
Gives a lot of info to help understand Jane Eyre.
Also mentions how Bronte's life affected the writing of the book.
Gives a good explanation of the history that went into the book.
Brought some topics to light for the papers that we are writing

Cons
Not going to lie, it was really boring. I found myself spacing off multiple times while listening.
The speakers got off track fairly easily. One minute they would be talking about Jane Eyre, the next they would go off on a tangent that was a bit hard to follow
I felt like they were teaching more than they were talking. It felt like a lesson more than just people talking.


What I found interesting:

Jane Eyre has been discussed to have drawn parallels to Bronte's life, but after listening to this podcast, it helps single out those scenarios in which this happens. I'm a bit jealous of the people that had the autobiography paper, as this really seems like it would be a good source.

Image result for victorian era clothingA thought that I had was the fact that multiple times while reading Jane Eyre, they talk about Jane being very plain. Also, they mention a lot of how people look. This prefaces how Jane feels about herself - plain - and compares to how she feels what others around her are like. In seeing these people's clothing, it reminds Jane of how plain she actually is. And since we know that Jane is a reflection of Bronte, we can assume that Bronte felt the same way about herself. She saw all of these people doing these amazing things, while she wrote stories. Bronte didn't think she was special, and because of that, she made Jane feel like she wasn't, either.

Podcast BBC Radio Lillie Bowman

Pros: 
The people on the podcast were educated about what they were talking about.
New about lots of topics.
Made comparisons between characters and Bronte and Austen.
Talked a lot about new info of Bronte and who she was as a person.
Cons:
The talks-people jumped around from lots of topics.
Sometimes it was hard to remember what I was listening to at moments.

What I found interesting:
Jane and Rochester reconcile at the end of the book and live happily ever after. But only after he becomes blind and burned and his house is burned to the ground.
I find this interesting because Jane sticks to her guns and ran away from Rochester earlier on because he was already married and told Jane she could be his mistress. But now since his wife has killed herself and took everything from Rochester in the blaze, he is now suitable for Jane? Does Jane think he has been humbled and since his wife is dead that somehow makes the situation totally different? Is he now worthy of her love because he too has been through sorrow and hardship and pain? I just want to know what was really going through Jane´s head.


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Pros:
All of the stories gave closure on some of the questions I had been having about the book.
They were good alternates to go around the book and talk about Jane's feelings and what she was going through.
Cons:
It was definitely hard to follow sometimes.
Some parts of pretty much all of the stories confused me.

What I found interesting:
All of the stories seem like they make the theme of the book sound like a love story.  And the book is more so self-finding.  The second story in the podcast made most sense for me because of where it led and how the story went.  This woman talked about what reputation Jane Eyre had.  Ed and Jen are the main characters in this side story.  Ed followed Jen and told us readers that she was like a farmer's wife and told us about the way she looked.  He didn't really know why he was following her.  Ed kept describing how attractive she was and how she wasn't friendless.

This blogger chose to make "Jen" plain to herself, but attractive to another person that didn't know her very well.  Bronte wrote Jane as much as she saw herself.  Honestly I think this story of the podcast showed Jane's journey of love and money throughout the book.  Ed is up and down while following Jen up hills and down different streets.  Panting and losing her throughout the trek he went on to follow her.

This was interesting because it didn't pop into my head until the end of the podcast that Ed's trek could be related to Jane's journey.

"In Our Time" - Saylor Small

Pros: 
  • The podcast gives a deeper insight into Charlotte Bronte's personal life.
  • The voices on podcast seemed informed and had new views to share with listeners. 
  • Readers/listeners can understand Jane Eyre better after listening and learn about the similarities between the novel and Bronte herself. 
Cons:
  • The podcast became confusing towards the end. 
  • Discussed things other than book and got off track.
  • Became easily boring and more informative than entertaining.

What I found interesting:

In the podcast, it was continuously repeated about Bronte's choice to emphasize Jane's plainness and the connection between the author and the character, and how Bronte used this to her advantage:

As read in the novel, looks and appearance are discussed thoroughly in the story by many different characters. It was mentioned during the podcast that Bronte herself could be seen 'average' or plain, and the fact her and Jane also had similar looks makes me wonder about how Bronte could've used her work for a much bigger purpose than to portray herself.

 Bronte fuses her reality into Jane Eyre to platform many different views on her mind. Feminism, for example. A woman like Jane standing up for herself in that time period was almost unheard of, but Bronte proved it possible (even if just in literature). Through Jane's looks and lifestyle, Bronte was able to put herself in the spotlight and voice issues on her mind. 

Overall, in physical looks and circumstances, Jane and Bronte can be compared to one another closely, and this is perhaps planned by Bronte herself. To use her own female lead as a gateway to express her views was clever and did a tremendous amount of advocating for women in the years to come. 



In Our Time- Logan Reynolds

Pros of the Podcast:
  • It helps you understand the novel better by giving you background information on the author that you would otherwise have to research to find out. 
  • They talk about some of the themes found in the novel such as, courtship and Gothic which in this case would help us with our paper. 
  • They talk about how Bronte's father played a major role in her life growing up and how he was the reason she read as much as she did. 
  • They also talked about other books by Charlotte Bronte and how they compare and are similar to Jane Eyre. 
Cons of the podcast:
  • Occasionally it was hard to keep up because they talked really fast at times.
  • They also jumped from topic to topic which made it kind of confusing.
  • There were times they would start talking about something and then never finish. 



One thing I thought was interesting after listening to the podcast was when they talked about how Bronte's father played a roll in her life. Her father was a clergyman, so he had a roll in the church. This meant their family was part of the middle class and Charlotte most likely grew up in a fairly religious home. Her father was a very strong willed and ambitious man. He worked hard in life to accomplish all the things he did. He had a library in which his children read. This is where I think Charlotte could have found some of her ideas for her writing. She often read novels where an older man married a younger woman. This happened later on in her life as well as in her novel Jane Eyre. 

I also thought it was interesting when they talked about Jane and Rochester's relationship. They start out with how they meet. They first met when Rochester fell off his horse and Jane was there to help him. The female broadcaster describes their relation as a very complex relationship because Rochester has the wealth and power and is the employer who is very dark and strong so it looks like the man has the upper hand is this relationship. However this is not true at all. Readers see from the very beginning when they first meet Rochester is lying on the ground and has to be rescued by none other than a woman, a very plain woman. Jane manages and redeems him and it is clear she has the real upper hand in the relationship throughout the whole book despite the stereotypes of the time period. 

Over all the podcast helped explain and gave things a much deeper meaning than I did when reading the book. There are many things you can take from this and it helps you understand the book in a completely new way. I didn't think about how the way Rochester and Jane met could basically paint a picture of their relationship in a nutshell. The podcast, despite he quickness and hard to understand accents was helpful when trying to understand the smaller details of Jane Eyre. 

In Our Time- Emily Harms

Pros:

  • Explained sides of the story I haven't thought of before
  • They talked about Charlotte's life which gave me more insight on the autobiographical aspect of the novel
  • They explained some of the themes more in depth
Cons:

  • Sometimes they were hard to understand when they were talking
  • They included a lot of extra information that wasn't necessary
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What I found interesting:
The lady talks about the comparison between Mr. Brocklehurst and William Carus Wilson.  She mentions how Charlotte wasn't fair to Wilson by the way she showed Mr. Brocklehurst in the novel Jane Eyre, but it is her story and she can show characters the way she wants to.  Since this story is said to be autobiographical, most people think of how both Charlotte and Jane are living with their aunt that isn't exactly the nicest person.  Most people don't compare Mr. Brocklehurst and William Carus Wilson, because there are some pretty major differences between them that makes it more difficult to link together.  Most parts of this story represent something that Charlotte went through during her life even if it isn't exact.

I relate this book to Thomas Foster's book How to Read Literature like a Professor.  Foster explains that no story is original and that they all come from other stories.  Parts of this novel had to have come from another source, and not just Charlotte Bronte's life story.  Shakespeare and the Bible are some sources that most literature builds off of to create the stories that we end up with today.

In Our Time- Jadin Vogler

Pros: 

  • Talks about how Bronte's life impacted her novel greatly and helps understand the story a bit more.
  • They talk about Bronte's father had a massive library and had them embrace literary and what books Charlotte read in her childhood years.
  • Throughout the video, they talk about some of the different themes in the book like Autobiographical, Courtship, and Buildungsroman.
Cons:
  • At times I got lost because they would randomly move to another topic.
  • Sometimes difficult to understand and a bit bland at times.
  • For myself, when I watch videos I like to see something going on so it keeps me interested instead of just having a picture as the background.
What I found Interesting:

I found two topics intriguing while listening to this podcast. The first one is Bronte's life and how it impacted her writing. I knew bits of information here and there from past research ,but what interested me the most was the books she read as a child. Charlotte Bronte read novels from her father's library that had powerful, older men falling in love with younger women in them. I think this impacted her life majorly not only in her writing but in her love life as well. She fell in love with an older professor in her own life and created the character Mr Rochester in her book, Jane Eyre, who was a wealthy, powerful, forty-year-old man who fell in love with an eighteen-year-old girl. Bronte wrote Mr Rochester as a ironic hero and a playful metaphor who was upsetting and funny. Then there is Jane who is short and plain. Being plain and simple was crucial to her novel and she expressed this through Miss Eyre. Writing her characters with such fiery nature impacted her novel greatly which cause great discussion for her book.

The next topic that interested me in this video was when they talked about the intensely emotional world around the characters. The thrills of Gothic mystery throughout the book and the danger of men surrounding young women (Jane Eyre) and how these themes influenced the characters. The dangers of men scatter through this novel. Jane getting abused by John Reed and then being shipped off to Lowood to be humiliated by Brocklehurst but then travel to Thornfield where she experiences love for the first time from the opposite gender. Jane now independent, can explore this area in life. The podcast goes into deeper thought on the relationship between Rochester and Jane and how it developed and became memorable. Their first meeting being a fairy tale entrance, Rochester, a dark, sturdy, masculine man, falling off his black steed and giving Jane a place to live and work. The shifting of powers between the two continues in the book. For instance, towards the end of the podcast, the talk about the couple switching places, Jane now being the wealthy, independent women who must tend to Rochester, a dark crippled man, you could say Jane is helping him come 'back to life'.

Overall I can relate this back to one of Foster's first chapters about quests. Throughout this book, both Jane, Rochester and maybe even Bronte go through ups and downs and have to find what they are truly looking for. 

"In Our Time"- Valerie Gabel

Pros
  • More information about Bronte’s‘ life
  • Talked about Bronte’s other books
    • For example, the professor and how that might be simple to Jane Eyre
  • Helped get information for my autobiography paper
Cons
  • Sometimes, they talked too fast in the broadcast and didn’t stay on the topic question.
  • Most times, they never finished what they talked about
    • For example, one broadcaster talked about Bronte’s mother, but that one particular broadcaster never finished her story about the mother’s past.  
  • It was too long, lost my attention
What I found interesting
In the podcast, one topic that stood out was when they talked about Jane Eyre and Rochester. They  helped each other out like a married couple. The idea came to mind when they explained how Jane Eyre helped Rochester out when he fell off his house. Then she helped him out when Bertha set fire in his room while he was sleeping.  Jane was like a wife to Rochester because she always put him before herself in everything.She was a hero to Rochester when he was in danger or hurt. Rochester was like a husband to Jane because he tried to give her everything she wanted. He made sure she attended the parties even though she was the governor. He let her read all the books she wanted to unlike the Reeds who forbid her to. He even gave her an expensive veil for her to wear on her wedding day. Their relationship was a balanced and compatible one. Rochester had money while Jane had empathy and  helped him out of his dark past. The same time, their relationship was rocky and not always balanced. After weeks went by, one that Jane acted as a wife to Rochester and continues to help him with his struggles. She always called him Master. She reminded herself that she is plain and simple because her status doesn’t equal the wealthy Rochester. That all changed when her uncle gave her his will. When Jane returned to Rochester, she was still not as wealthy as him. Jane helped Rochester everyday after he became blind. Jane’s status became more equal to Rochester’s after she inherited an amount of money. In conclusion to the podcast, I found out that even in the beginning of Jane and Rochester relationship. they acted as a married couple. They loved each other not by looks but by helping each other out.
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"In Our Time" -Holly Skorupa

Pros:

  • The podcast teaches the listener more about Charlotte Bronte, who after all, is the creator behind the famous novel
  • This in turn reveals more of the autobiographical aspect of Jane Eyre. The podcast gives good examples from Bronte's life that correspond with events in her book. 
  • The first female narrator gives good descriptions of some details behind the book, like why Bronte wanted a plain heroine. 
Cons:

  • The male narrator throughout the podcast is boring, talks slow, and uses lots of filler words like "um"
  • The first female speaker speaks in a very monotone manner, and makes the listener tune out, lose interest, or start to fall asleep if you're like me and are doing this at 11:30 pm. 
  • Okay, it's not that I don't love a luxurious British accent now and then, but I often found myself unsure of, or just not understanding, some words they're saying throughout the podcast. If someone reading this has a British accent, I'm sorry. Keep doing you. 

Patrickbronte.jpgOne aspect of Bronte's life that I had never thought about, until the podcast had brought it up, was her parents. It talked about her father, Patrick Bronte, who was born the son of a poor farmer, and worked to bring his family up. By the time he was sixteen, he had founded a school. I'm seventeen and can't even go to the doctor's office alone. I mean, the dude wasn't even originally named Bronte, before he legally changed it, it was Brunty! He had gone through many apprenticeships to try and find his passion, and eventually became a clergyman before he met his wife. He was tough too. His wife Maria died when Bronte was just 47, and he still moved forward, and outlived all six of his children too. 


Aside from my curiosity with the Bronte family, I was drawn in by something mentioned approximately sixteen minutes into the podcast. The narrator brought up the weather often written about in the novel, and how the reader often knows the weather in a scene. This reminded me of Thomas C. Foster's book, How to Read Literature Like a Professor. In his book, Foster talks about how weather is always symbolic, like rain is never just rain. Rain often symbolizes the cleansing of a character, or a brand new start for them. This is evident in Jane Eyre. During the period where Jane was homeless after leaving Thornfield, she had gotten rained on while sleeping in one of her nooks. This was the day before she met Mary, Hannah, Diana, and St. John, which is the day her life turned around. That rain was cleaning Jane anew, and ridding her of her past with the Reeds, Thornfield, and Rochester.

I am not going to lie, I do not read through Jane Eyre and recognize the symbolic weather or contemplate her family background, but since realizing these things I will be paying much closer attention. 

"In Our Time" Podcast - Sarah DeBoer

Pros:

  • helped give a better understanding of the story
  • gave a better idea of why Charlotte wrote what she did
  • the people knew what they were saying and were very informed

Cons:

  • very long and not very entertaining
  • was sometimes hard to understand
  • talked about things that didn't apply to what was needed

What I found interesting...
I found it very interesting when they talked about how much the setting and scene matter in this story. They talk about the weather and the domestic houses and even what people are wearing. I did not think this mattered as much in a story as just something to fill up pages. I now understand that Charlotte put things in the story for a reason. For every action, there is a purpose. Just the way Bronte talks about Jane and how she is feeling, you can picture what she is wearing.

The discussion of the book continued with them talking about how spectacular the book is. It has gothic mixed in and the gloomy context, which was important to the Bronte siblings. This is why it is still very popular today. It has many ideas or contexts that draw people in like the young women in danger who is prayed upon by men. Most popular novels have a damsel in distress. It is full of  action and suspense so it is never dull. The setting and characters are constantly changing which helps to give more suspense to the story because you don't know what is going to happen. This novel is also very emotional which makes the reader feel more involved in the story if they can connect or feel what the main character is feeling. This story values thought which means the details are impeccable. It is very aware of the world around the characters and how things are depending in what is happening. 

This book also reminds me of How to Read Literatue Like a Professor by Thomas Foster and the connections they both have. Some chapters in Foster's book are made for just the purpose of understanding and this podcast has helped me see the bigger picture of stories and why they are written. All things happen for a reason even if that reason is bad or untrustworthy.

Authors Discussion Podcast- Christa Norton

Within forty-three minutes of discussion, I wondered how much time and effort each person involved had spent researching both the book and the Bronte's family. Each connection within the book was carefully analyzed and debated before this discussion of whether or not it did have any real connections to Charlotte Bronte's life. This podcast was very helpful in several ways: it gave many supports for the book being an autobiography, it went in depth into Charlotte's life, and it had many different insights of book scenes. However, the podcast was quick, giving little time to really interpret what they were discussing, it seemed a little too long and difficult to differentiate the different people speaking, and the discussion was sometimes scattered all over the board. 



From this podcast I found it odd how little they discussed about Charlotte's way of writing her family. The entire podcast was about Charlotte writing scenes from her life, but they only spoke about her family in the beginning. However, they lacked the mention the part in which Jane would give up all her money for the existence of her three other cousins. In Charlotte's family, she lost her two older sisters but had a remaining three. Characters Mary, Daiana, and St. John Rivers play as her remaining siblings, but Mr. Rivers does eventually leave Jane. This exact thing occurs with Charlotte's brother Branwell- in the difference that Branwell dies.

BBC History of The Brontes gives a quick review of what we learned within the podcast regarding the history timeline of the Bronte family.

There are several elements of family written in from Charlotte. Jane Eyre is constantly searching and striving for anything to connect with. She finds comfort with her teachers, which probably is not a coincidence, but Charlotte's father, Patrick was also a bit of a teacher. Then she tries to confide with others she is around- simply just trying to find her place- finally finding her own family, but still returning to the one she had made.

What I would have spoken more about- if making connections of Jane Eyre and Charlotte Bronte's life- would've been the different family elements in which are faced within both women's lives. There are factors which are clearly stated and many that are more in depth than not. The connections in which are made can be seen from different angles and can be connected differently to Charlotte's life, but in the end there are clear pieces of evidence that Charlotte was not just writing Jane Eyre's story.

Monday, December 12, 2016

"Charlotte Bronte at 200: stories inpired by Jane Eyre" - Cassie Barber

Transference was a better story compared to the second one because it follows the plot and story line much more closely. There are a few things that are different, such as the physical setting, characters, and occupations, but for the most part the stories are the same. Although, the likeness for Mr. Rochester is sometimes switched between the boyfriend and the therapist.

It starts off with a woman who is young and doesn't know much of the world yet, just like Jane Eyre. This woman has a boyfriend. The relationship between the two are very unstable. They have different views and opinions are various topics. This is much like the relationship between Mr. Rochester and Jane Eyre. They are both very different people. When something happens that the boyfriend doesn't want, he tries to force the girlfriend to do something else by persuading her. This to me is seen as abusive. Yet it's the exact same thing that happened with Jane and Mr. Rochester. This adds even more to the similarities between Jane Eyre and Transference.

Not only that, but Mr. Rochester and the therapist are also alike. Both of them have a wife, and yet they still try to get with Jane and the woman. In Transference that fact is not clearly written, and at the mention of his wife it seems as if the therapist does not want to get with the woman, which is unlike Mr. Rochester. Mr. Rochester tries to hide his wife in order to be able to marry Jane.

In a way, the therapist and St. John are portrayed similarly as well. After something bad happens between Jane and Mr. Rochester or the woman and the boyfriend, the two women run away to somebody else in order to try and get away from the men which are seen as unhealthy to be around at the moment. St. John and the therapist help the two women realize, in different ways, that they really do want the previous men in their lives. And even though the Jane and the woman go back to Mr. Rochester and the boyfriend, they still love St. John and the therapist, though they have realized they don't need to act on their love.

In these ways, Transference was much more like Jane Eyre than the second story that was read. There's just more similarities than the other story, even with the obvious differences.

"In Our Time" Millington

Pros

  • There were similarities between Jane and Bronte brought to light that I had not thought about before.
  • Gave a more in depth view of Charlotte's life, which makes it easier to understand her writing.
  • It refers to some of the themes that we have talked about in class, especially gothic and autobiographical.
Cons
  • Sometimes I got lost or just didn't know what they were talking about.
  • I have trouble just listening to things without being able to read them myself so I had trouble comprehending parts.
Love story?

  • I enjoyed the way that described Jane and Mr. Rochester as an average love story and not a love story.  They describe him as a kind of ironic hero.  He is incredibly funny and charming.  The woman describes him as more of an archetype than an actual hero.  An archetype is a character that represents human nature.  This is interesting because to me, Rochester doesn't really seem like a hero at all.  He seems like a depressed man who gets angry when he doesn't get exactly what he wants.  So in the sense of his humor and charm he would seem like an average man in a sappy love story but in the way that he represents human nature he would not. 
  • They also explain the necessity of having Jane be short and plain.  It was very important to Bronte that Jane be short and plain because Bronte herself was.  It shows simplicity, which implies honesty of character.  They believe that Jane's looks affected everything about her story, especially her love life.  The way that she thought about herself changed as she matured and fell in love.  This was interesting because I wondered why it was so significant that Jane was plain.
  • This article ( http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2011-03-11/entertainment/ct-ae-0313-jane-eyre-main-20110311_1_edward-rochester-doodles-charlotte-bronte ) says that Jane Eyre is not, in fact, a love story.  I thought that it was very interesting because it says that the book is more about Jane's self-expression and respect.  
Did they get what they deserved?
  • I thought it was very interesting how they brought up the fact that every character got what they deserved.  I hadn't thought about it until they mentioned it but when I did, I realized that every character who wronged Jane ended up getting injured or dying.  The people Jane didn't like ended up being punished, while Jane always ended up getting what she wanted. 
  • Also they imply that all of the readers are always on Jane's side and want her to get what she wants.  I disagree with this statement because at times I felt like Jane didn't deserve what she wanted because she's the one who got herself into the messes that she needs to fix.  Most of the time I did want Jane to succeed but not always like the podcast implies.
Bertha Mason
  • The part about how Bronte had to try very hard to make Bertha Mason a character that no one could sympathize with was interesting.  Jane had a very brief moment where she questioned Rochester's lack of sympathy for his wife, but that was the only time where Bertha was even briefly pitied. She had to be treated like an animal, so that no one would be able to feel sympathy for her.  There is an air of mystery surrounding  Bertha which makes her hard to relate to.  She is a foil to Jane and a way to make Rochester seem better than he really is.  At the same time though she relates to Jane because of the way that Jane was treated as a child.  So that contradiction is very thought provoking.
Overall the podcast gave me a much better understanding of the author and the characters.  It made it a lot easier to interpret certain parts of the book.  The only thing that I disliked about the podcast was that sometimes I had no idea what they were talking about but most of it was understandable.

"In Our Time" podcast- Emily Burnside



Pros:
~Very informative on Bronte's life
~Compared Jane Eyre to other literature
~Explained topics such as courtship in depth
~Helps listeners understand Bronte's reason for writing the way she did

Cons:
~Was very long and lost my attention
~Sometimes unclear when the topic being talked about changed

What captured my interest:
One thing that really stood out to me in this podcast was the emphasis on Jane's plainness and especially her fear.

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Bronte repeatedly brings up Jane's plainness of looks, character, and life throughout her novel. The podcast once again brought it to my attention and made me think about why it was so important. Bronte herself was an average woman, but her circumstances made her a strong feminist. She expresses her views on a male dominated society through Jane, who is boldly straight-forward and independent. It was crucial that her main character was as average and relateable as possible to other women in society, because it portrayed they didn't have to have a high status or be important to make a difference.

As I read Jane Eyre, I continued to see Jane's growing independence, but never put much thought into why she continued to be like this. The podcast described how much fear Jane had, which likely stemmed from her early childhood. Jane was very self-aware and afraid of her circumstances overcoming her. In everything she did, she made boundaries in order to protect herself. She demonstrates this when she and Mr. Rochester begin to fall in love, by not openly showing her affection for him, even when it becomes obvious he doesn't want another. Before the planned marriage, Jane rarely expressed her feelings, and constantly protected herself. When Bertha Mason came between the couple, Jane was broken-hearted. However, her fear saved her. If she had given all of herself to the relationship, she would have suffered much more than she did and wouldn't have been able to stand up to Mr. Rochester.

Ultimately, common women of the Victorian Era may have been inspired by Jane, but to fearful to voice their opinions. However, Jane turned her fear into a tool that helped her be more independent, and women could see that in her. Because of her writing, Bronte has helped change society to what it is today.

"In Our Time" Podcast - Sarah DeBoer

Pros:

  • helps you understand the story in a different way

Cons:

  • way to long
  • sometimes hard to understand

Podcast-Kaleb Vogt

While listening to the podcast I had some time to think. I not only thought about what was being discussed, but I was searching my mind for any questions I had relating to not only the podcast, but the novel as a whole. One thing that stood out to me the most that I couldn't get out of my mind was the thought of Jane Eyre being considered an autobiography of Charlotte Bronte's life. Throughout the podcast they discuss Charlotte Bronte's Life and its similarities to the novel. The whole time I was listening to this I was wondering why Charlotte Bronte would make her autobiographical in the first place. I'm not saying that her life story wasn't interesting or that her novel didn't include enough ideas of her own, but why did Bronte want to write about her life in the first place?

From what I've seen in the book and heard in the podcast, Charlotte Bronte life's was very difficult, like most people during the Victorian Era. Bronte might of been born into a family with at least some amount of wealth, but she lived through a somewhat difficult childhood. Two of Bronte's siblings died in her childhood and what kind of author would like to bring up those memories?

From what I've read in the past authors will normally write autobiographies to be remembered. Everyone wants their story to live on through the ages which Bronte's surely has. Maybe remembering her past and having someone that was almost a sister to Jane Eyre, Helen Burns, die in the first part of the novel could almost be seen as a tribute. Authors have many reasons behind why they write their novels and I've been wondering why Bronte wrote hers.

This video only touches on why authors might write their autobiography, but it brings brings up some points to why Bronte might've wrote hers.
Overall this podcast did a great job at helping me to think more about the novel. Not only did I finally get some time to think about Jane Eyre, but the podcast was very informative as well. By listening to the podcast I got a better idea of what Charlotte Bronte's life was like and how it affected her writing. The podcast also cleared up parts of the novel that were fuzzy to me and I enjoyed the conversation the people had with one another instead everything being like a lesson. The only thing that I didn't like as much was that the speakers skipped from topic to topic a little too fast at times.

In Our Time Podcast Response - Skretta


Pros
  1. British accents are nice to listen to.
  2. The people talking are obviously well informed on the topic
  3. It touches on many themes we discussed in class
Cons
  1. It was kind of boring and I spaced out for almost all of it the first time I listened to it.
  2. It was long and the people talking still didn't get to everything they wanted to talk about
  3. It was kind of hard to tell who was talking for parts
What I found interesting

The most interesting part of the podcast to me was at the beginning when they discussed Bronte's family.

They mentioned her father first, Patrick Bronte. He was the son of an Irish farmer in county Down.  He eventually become a clergyman through his education and at the age of sixteen had already founded his own school.  He also studied at Cambridge where he received high academic honors.  Also they mention that he taught, but don't say where, and touch on education running throughout his life.  He was a hero to Charlotte.

The podcast only briefly touches on her mother Maria.  Pretty much the only thing they mention about her is that her name was Maria, she was Cornish, that she was very devoted to her husband, and she died when Charlotte was young.  I still think this little tid bit is interesting though.  They mention that Patrick Bronte was a hero to his daughter but from this I also believe that her mother was as well.  I find it striking that in the brief description of Bronte's mother you can see a parallel between her and Jane.  When Jane finally marries Rochester she is completely devoted to him. Similar to the way that Maria was devoted to Patrick.  

Also the podcast talks about her siblings.  Charlotte was one of six children.  Apparently she lost two of her siblings when they were quite young.  These two sisters died at school.  This school would go on to become the hideous Lowood School of the book.  The real life Charlotte only stayed at school ten months, nothing compared to the eight years Jane spends at Lowood.  It seems that these two sisters who died at school could've served as inspiration for Helen Burns in the novel.  The way Jane acts around Helen and how friendly they are towards each other does seem to emulate the way siblings act.  Think about it.  Up until this point Jane is shy and hasn't spoken to anyone at Lowood.  However, she has no qualms about approaching Helen, and who would be scared of talking to a sibling?

More about Patrick

Patrick Bronte was born the eldest of ten children.  His last name was originally Brunty, but he had it officially changed to Bronte.  He was born in 1777 in North Ireland at Emdale.  As mentioned before when he was 16 he was already a school master.  He entered Cambridge in 1802, which is where he adopted the name Bronte.  He was ordained to the church into 1807.  He married Maria in 1812.  He started to go blind in his 60's and in 1861 died at the age of 84.

More about Maria
Maria Bronte, born Maria Branwell, was the 8th of 11 children and was born in Cornwall in 1783.  She was born into a fairly affluent family that was deeply involved in the politics and trade of their region.  Between 1808 and 1811 a series of four family deaths broke apart her immediate family and Maria left for Yorkshire in 1812 to start a new life.  It was here while she was working as an assistant in a school that she met Patrick Bronte.  They were married on December 29, 1812.  After having six children, Maria died in September, 1821.

More about the Bronte Children

Patrick and Maria Bronte had six children.  The first daughter, also named Maria, and the second daughter named Elizabeth were born in 1814 and 1815 respectively near Hartshead.  Then the family moved to Thornton.  Then came Charlotte in 1816, Patrick in 1817, Emily Jane in 1818, and lastly Anne in 1820.  Maria, Elizabeth, Charlotte, and Emily all studied at a school for the daughters of clergymen, which would become the inspiration of Lowood.  Maria and Elizabeth would both die in 1825 after becoming sick at school and being sent home.  Soon after the two eldest were discharged from school Charlotte and Emily were recalled in good health and would never return.  The only boy, Patrick, was somewhat of a failure.  In 1838 he set himself up as a professional portrait painter in Bradford but failed to make a living and took a job as a tutor in 1840. However he was fired within a year.  He then worked as a clerk for a railway from October 1841 to April 1842 when he was fired again.  He then worked as a tutor again, this time in the Robinson household near York.  However, he was once again fired in 1845 after an affair with his employers wife. Over the next three years he became addicted to alcohol and opium and died in 1848.  Little is know about Emily.  She was educated at Clergy Daughters' School at age six for only six months and again for three months at a different school.  She started writing young and often collaborated with her sister Anne.  Emily wrote under the nom de plume Ellis Bell.  She died in 1848 at home.  The youngest sister Anne was born in 1820 and was just twenty months old when her mother died.  She wrote from a very early age like her sisters and served as a governess in two different houses from 1839 to 1845.  She hated the work and found it lonely.  Near the end of her life she published two novels.  The first in 1847 then the second in 1848.  She died in 1849 at Scarborough.



"In Our Time"-Podcast Mathew Harvey

Pros
gave explanations on the book by many professors and leaders in their fields.
there was a lot of information on her early childhood.
gave in depth ideas on how people think how Jane's life influenced her books.
Courtship was given a big part in this podcast and helped immensely.

Cons
they talk very quick and it’s hard to follow at times.
brought up a lot of things that didn't matter really at all.



I found it very interesting that one of the scholars considered the whole book a constant power shift with Jane. Jane was a young girl who hated her foster mother of sorts and wants to get away from her, the power lies with the mother she holds the letter that says she has relatives that are willing to take her and is the grown-up. Jane eventually comes back years later when she is dying and receives the letter and now holds the power as the scholar said. Another example is Rochester and Jane's relationship, she met him hurt as he fell of his horse and has to help him to the horse (she has power) she eventually learns she is working for him and he gains the power back. Finally holds the power for the last part of the book choosing not to be his mistress and coming back to him when he is half blind and praying she will marry him.


Something else that ties into this power shift ideas is everyone gets what they deserve in the end in this book. Jane's foster mother dies in the end and gives Jane the letter. she deserved to receive that letter to have that knowledge and her mother deserved to die because she was one of the many antagonist. Jane finds true love with Rochester and doesn't get that until the very end of the book since Rochester lied to her. I agreed that Jane deserved to get him but thought Rochester lied to her and didn't deserve her but what he did deserve was going partly blind from his house fire and I think that was Bronte's way of punishing him to allow him to have Jane. There are a insane amount of other instances that show this to be true, this is something I didn't notice till it was brought to my attention.


"In Our Time" Podcast- Lindsey P.

Pros-
  • Talks a little about Charlotte's family
  • You get the point of view from professionals
  • Talks about some real life people that Bronte based her characters off of
Cons- 
  • When they do talk about Charlotte's family it's vague
  • they don't spend much time on one particular topic
        Something that caught my attention in the podcast was the medical care at the school that Charlotte, Mary, and Elizabeth attended. It made me wonder what the medical care was like back in the Victorian era, not only in the schools, but also everywhere else. 


        I found out that in the beginning period of the era ,hospitals, rather than beings seen as a "place of healing" were more often viewed as a "gateway of death".Visitors would see overcrowded wards, surgeries being performed without any form of anesthesia, and an unclean workplace. Back in this time the hospitals were not seen as a priority, and health care was practically non existent. Charlotte Bronte wrote it Jane Eyre the lack of empathy for the sick girls and how medicine was not seen as important. It was a glimpse into how Victorian society looked at medicine and the priority of the sick.
 
        It wasn't until the middle of the century that medical care and hospitals were being reinvented. Several different types of hospitals came out of this for different types of patients. The more popular ones were the voluntary hospitals, specialist and cottage hospitals, Hospitals for infectious diseases, and asylums.

Voluntary Hospitals- Theses hospitals initially started out as hospitals who took in the poor who couldn't afford to see a doctor. A board of directors chose who would be admitted and the doctors were not compensated, they had to have their own private practice. Eventually they became so popular that the rich preferred to be in the hospitals than have their own personal doctor.
Specialist/Cottage Hospitals- These arose out of the need for hospitals that would treat conditions that other hospitals turned away. These hospitals were different because it was the doctor that chose who was admitted not a board of directors. The cottage hospitals popped up so that people in the country didn't have to travel very far.

Infectious Diseases Hospitals- In order to prevent the spread of infectious diseases these hospitals were created to isolate patients and protect the other citizens. The good thing about these hospitals was that they were free admittance so that they could protect the public.

Asylums- From the 1808 County Asylums Act, the mentally ill were placed in separate hospitals all to themselves. Prior to this mental illness was not seen as a disease so the people who suffered from it were treated as criminals, vagrants, and paupers. As it is shown in Jane Eyre the mental illness of Mr.Rochester's wife was something to be ashamed of and hidden away.
Learning about the medical care back in the Victorian era gave me a better understanding of the way the Lowood girls were neglected when it came to the outbreak. It wasn't just because Mr. Brocklehurst was a cruel man, it was all of society's view on medicine and those who were ill, it just wasn't a huge priority.

¨In our Time¨ Podcast - Brittany Florer

Pros:
- Gave in depth explanations to some of the things I had been wondering throughout the book
- They talked about the different themes portrayed throughout each part of Jane's life
- There was more than one woman talking so it gave us a variety of different views on some topics rather than just one
- Gave a good summary of Jane Eyre
Cons:
- It was hard to follow along at times
- They didn't go in to some of the topics as much as I was hoping they would have
- Long and drawn out


Something that stuck with me from the podcast is how much they describe Jane being a plain girl in the beginning. Living with her aunt Reed and cousins Jane never got the chance to express herself they way most children do. When Jane was sent to Lowood she got a better idea of what it meant to have family and friends thanks to Helen Burns. Leaving Lowood and arriving at Thornfield Hall helped Jane begin to sprout as a young women. There she gained confidence and a lot of it was because of Mr. Rochester. Falling in love with him changed Jane dramatically and by the end of the book it is clear that she has grown so much as a character. This podcast really helped me realize the journey that Jane had gone through and how much stronger and confident she had become.